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  The two paths of exJWs

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's easy to think of exjws as being a single amorphous group but the more i think about it, the more i believe that there are two distinct sub-groups and wonder if you agree.. there are those who believe and those who don't.

  i know that seems obvious but let's break it down a bit more.

  there are those who don't and never believed and some who are looking for a religion to match their beliefs.. i used to think this split would be between born-ins and converts but of course it's possible for born-ins to be believers although i suspect that many, like with other faiths, do so simply because they have never experienced anything else or made a conscious choice.

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  stan livedeath

  i wasnt born in. my mother got religion when i was about 9 years old--and can remember going to meetings from about 11.

  dad followed mom into it--and he got baptised in 1962. so did i--to please mum as several other kids in the congregation were getting dipped too--and i guess it was peer pressure. i hadnt a tits clue what i was getting into--i was 14.

  i left school at 16--and within 6 months was pioneering--again--peer pressure. Ron Drage had been giving it large at the assemblies about teenagers becoming pioneers.

  i never really thought much about the religion in those days--it was simply what we were. i started courting at 17--married at 20---and then came to think long and hard about religion over the next 3 years.

  i just knew i couldnt care less about god--the bible--and any religion. i quit the jw's when i was 23--and have had no interest in any religion ever since.
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  Berkshire Circuit (UK)

  by Dont_Believe_The_Truth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm hearing rumours of huge changes within the berkshire circuit here in the uk .

  congregations being dispanded and kingdom halls closing down and being sold off.... official announcements within the next month apparently .

  does anyone else have anymore info?.

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  stan livedeath

  you would at least think they would hide or remove the sign on the building. what a fine witness for jehovah. up for sale.
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  I'm getting baptized

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

  my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

  i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

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  stan livedeath

  hey Wolf---just forget to take your speedos. they wont dip you if your bare ass nekkid.
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  Where did Jehovah go ?

  by Deleteandrestart in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for the many years i was mentally " in " the congregation, i equated the organisation as interchangeable with the persona of jehovah, in effect whatever the organisation said or thought, that was what jehovah thought and that was what jehovah said.... it was that simple.

  so when i found out the ttatt and the cynical moves of the organisation over the years,including 1975 , the donation arrangements, the united nations, etc i was devastated and thought " where's jehovah in all of this?".

  the god who i'd poured my heart out to on many occasions and who i thought was silently listening and hearing my pleas ..... was not there , .

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  stan livedeath

  if ever you need to resort to praying to god--just get yourself a nice plank of wood and draw an angry miserable face on it. then pray away to your hearts content.

  you wont get any answers--or miracles.

  so--your plank will respond exactly as jehovah does.
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  What will be the Next Flip Flop?

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now that the soc has accepted the use of technology.

  what is next?

  could it be the disfellowshipping?

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  stan livedeath

  I think the next doctrinal change may be regarding the 144,000. Something complex enough to make the average JW not really get it or really be relieved its easier to "understand"

  the 144,000 is literal--whereas the symbolic 12,000 from each of the 12 symbolic tribes of symbolic Israel is symbolic. or should that be--bollics ?
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  Letter # 1 to the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses

  by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is my first letter i posted to the governing body.

  i also hope that brothers on the writing committee who may be lurking on this site (and have some clout) read my letter and bring in change to this very flawed policy around confession of sins.. enjoy.

  the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.

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  stan livedeath

  I think the first sentence should be OK.
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  Where does WT get their money?

  by Dreamerdude in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i assume they get most of it from cash donations and assets left in wills.

  there may also be some income from invested assets.

  i guess they get a lot of money from old jws who die childless or with only df'd kids.geographically i assume they get it mostly from a few countries that have many publishers and strong economies.

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  stan livedeath

  Don't over estimate the generosity of the UK brothers when it comes to donations. They are the meanest bunch of tight wads on the planet!
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  Waking People Up With Well Thought Out Comments

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  is it possible to have an effect from the inside?

  with well thought comments that reveal more of the history of the organization?

  the next book we study will be "god's kingdom rules!

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  stan livedeath

  My wife " how do you feel about the truth ?"

  Me " shut your gob. Where's my dinner ?"
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  USA toddler in car shoots mom dead AGAIN!!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. social
  2. current

  yes afew months ago a florida woman was shot in the back with a gun left under her seat by her toddler.

  today a milwaukee woman was killed by the same thing.

  australian 30 year anniversary of port aurthur massacre when most dangerous automatic weapons were banned.....no massacres since for 30 years.

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  stan livedeath

  USA toddler in car shoots mom dead AGAIN!!!

  shot dead--twice ?
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  Programme for UK branch visit

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've seen this weekend's uk branch visit mentioned a few times.

  for those who are interested, here is the programme:-.

  1:00 pm song 63 & prayer - p. gillies.

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  stan livedeath

  Phizzy12 hours ago

  Theyv'e retired those former minor Rock Stars Drage and Ellis then ? they both must be well over 70 so no surprise.

  
  

  a good bit older than that--i knew Ellis and Drage in my late teens--50 years ago. must be in their 80's now. Bevan Vigo is a few years older than me. he stayed in my house a couple of times when he was a serc.